Wednesday, November 28, 2007
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Recent correspondence to Ministers office
In response to recent issues along the 90 mile beach please see attached article for your info and copy of recent VCAT decision. We would also just like to make you aware of the fact that council have continually sold their strategy suggested it is environmentally inappropriate. We reject this, along the whole stretch of coastline there is only 100 or so restructured blocks with the ability to develop. This is by no means an environmental disaster the potential developments will be entirely self sufficient low impact environmentally sustainable houses.
We would also like you to be aware that councils business case has been based on the devaluing of our properties to unbelievable valuations of approximately $500 - 1000 for single blocks and in my case $5,000 for restructured block with planning approval. On legal advise we have in fact been told that should you sign the planning changes and set the process of obtaining our properties, the valuations would be on market value without planned changes to amendments. Single blocks in the deemed town boundary are from $50,000 - 90,000 with a value of anywhere from $90,000 - $150,000.00 for restructured.
Kind Regards
Kim Harpur
on behalf of property rights action group
TO WHICH WE HAVE A REPLY..FROM TRARALGON AGAIN.
Dear Ms Harpur,
I refer to your email to the Minister for Planning, Justin Madden MLC, in relation to the above matters. Please find attached the response letter.
Yours sincerely
Alan Freitag,
Manager Planning and DevelopmentOffice of Planning and Urban Design,
GippslandDepartment of Planning and Community Development
71 Hotham Street, Traralgon, VIC 3844
http://www.dpcd.vic.gov.au/_________
Our Ref:
File:
DSE0464l0
PL-PL/05/0029
71 Hotham Street
Traralgon Victoria 3844
Telephone(:0 3) 51722 111
Fassimile(: 03)5 1722 100
052 204
Ms Kim Harput
kharpur@optusnceot.m .a u
246 October 2007
Dear Ms Harpur
WELLINGTON COASTAL STRATEGY, NINETY MILE BEACH
Thank you for your e-mail to the Minister for Planning, Justin Madden MLC in relation to
oppositionto the Wellington Shire Council Coastal strategy.I have beena skedt o respond
to you directly on the Ministers behalf.
I have noted the various m atters which you have raised.
As previously advised the Department of Planning and Community Developments
working with the WellingtonC ouncil to assess their preferred implementation approach for
the Wellington Coast Subdivision Strategy.
In respect of compensation of land owners, I expect the inter-department working group
will provide advice in respect of that matter in their final report.
___________________________________________________
We would also like you to be aware that councils business case has been based on the devaluing of our properties to unbelievable valuations of approximately $500 - 1000 for single blocks and in my case $5,000 for restructured block with planning approval. On legal advise we have in fact been told that should you sign the planning changes and set the process of obtaining our properties, the valuations would be on market value without planned changes to amendments. Single blocks in the deemed town boundary are from $50,000 - 90,000 with a value of anywhere from $90,000 - $150,000.00 for restructured.
Kind Regards
Kim Harpur
on behalf of property rights action group
TO WHICH WE HAVE A REPLY..FROM TRARALGON AGAIN.
Dear Ms Harpur,
I refer to your email to the Minister for Planning, Justin Madden MLC, in relation to the above matters. Please find attached the response letter.
Yours sincerely
Alan Freitag,
Manager Planning and DevelopmentOffice of Planning and Urban Design,
GippslandDepartment of Planning and Community Development
71 Hotham Street, Traralgon, VIC 3844
http://www.dpcd.vic.gov.au/_________
Our Ref:
File:
DSE0464l0
PL-PL/05/0029
71 Hotham Street
Traralgon Victoria 3844
Telephone(:0 3) 51722 111
Fassimile(: 03)5 1722 100
052 204
Ms Kim Harput
kharpur@optusnceot.m .a u
246 October 2007
Dear Ms Harpur
WELLINGTON COASTAL STRATEGY, NINETY MILE BEACH
Thank you for your e-mail to the Minister for Planning, Justin Madden MLC in relation to
oppositionto the Wellington Shire Council Coastal strategy.I have beena skedt o respond
to you directly on the Ministers behalf.
I have noted the various m atters which you have raised.
As previously advised the Department of Planning and Community Developments
working with the WellingtonC ouncil to assess their preferred implementation approach for
the Wellington Coast Subdivision Strategy.
In respect of compensation of land owners, I expect the inter-department working group
will provide advice in respect of that matter in their final report.
___________________________________________________
Tuesday, October 16, 2007
Monday, September 3, 2007
Today Tonight
Did anyone see the Today Tonight Story. I missed it but was told our local "Real Estate" was interviewed saying what an investment opportunity along 90 mile beach.. I think we need to answer the story?? What do you all think
Achieving the Australian dream
Reporter: Marguerite McKinnon
Broadcast Date: September 03, 2007
The great dream of buying a home, let alone one by the beach, is something many believe will never happen but there are still some bargains.
In some suburbs, Australians can pick up coastal land for as little as $10,000.
Australia's east coast is blue-ribbon real estate with a price-tag to match but just when you thought there was no chance of buying a beachside paradise, some little gems have surfaced in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria.
Just ask owner Duncan Knightsbridge.
"You didn't hear this from me but this is the best kept secret in Australia, let alone the world," he said.
Russell Island, off mainland Queensland, has shaken off its 1970s bad investment reputation.
The median land price is $32,000 and along with Coolbie, is one of Queensland's best bargains.
Allan Murray's $5000 is now 17 times more valuable.
"I purchased a block of dirt on Russell Island about 27 years ago and now it's worth anything from $80,000 to $90,000," he said.
Real Estate Agent, Max Platt, said Russell Island is a goldmine.
"Well if you could buy a nice block of land with some water views for around about the $75,000-$85,000, I think by the middle of next year you'd see a rise of somewhere up around the $135,000 mark," he said.
"The cheapest block we've got on the island at the moment is $55,000."
It is a similar story down south in Victoria where two sites standout.
At the aptly named Paradise Beach, a 600sqm block of land costs about $53,000 while Golden Beach has land for about $58,000.
But the cheapest coastal land in the country is in NSW and Wyee has land for $45,000, North Arm Cove is selling for $22,000.
John Rumble from Hawks Nest First National Real Estate said there is a catch.
"Basically they start from around $10,000, you get about 900sqm block of land and it's a non-urban block of land," he said.
"I mean it's very rare that you can find a block of land this close to the coast for $10,000, even though you can't do anything with it."
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Achieving the Australian dream
Reporter: Marguerite McKinnon
Broadcast Date: September 03, 2007
The great dream of buying a home, let alone one by the beach, is something many believe will never happen but there are still some bargains.
In some suburbs, Australians can pick up coastal land for as little as $10,000.
Australia's east coast is blue-ribbon real estate with a price-tag to match but just when you thought there was no chance of buying a beachside paradise, some little gems have surfaced in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria.
Just ask owner Duncan Knightsbridge.
"You didn't hear this from me but this is the best kept secret in Australia, let alone the world," he said.
Russell Island, off mainland Queensland, has shaken off its 1970s bad investment reputation.
The median land price is $32,000 and along with Coolbie, is one of Queensland's best bargains.
Allan Murray's $5000 is now 17 times more valuable.
"I purchased a block of dirt on Russell Island about 27 years ago and now it's worth anything from $80,000 to $90,000," he said.
Real Estate Agent, Max Platt, said Russell Island is a goldmine.
"Well if you could buy a nice block of land with some water views for around about the $75,000-$85,000, I think by the middle of next year you'd see a rise of somewhere up around the $135,000 mark," he said.
"The cheapest block we've got on the island at the moment is $55,000."
It is a similar story down south in Victoria where two sites standout.
At the aptly named Paradise Beach, a 600sqm block of land costs about $53,000 while Golden Beach has land for about $58,000.
But the cheapest coastal land in the country is in NSW and Wyee has land for $45,000, North Arm Cove is selling for $22,000.
John Rumble from Hawks Nest First National Real Estate said there is a catch.
"Basically they start from around $10,000, you get about 900sqm block of land and it's a non-urban block of land," he said.
"I mean it's very rare that you can find a block of land this close to the coast for $10,000, even though you can't do anything with it."
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Tuesday, August 21, 2007
C48 Planning Amendment
URGENT,
WE ALL NEED TO ACT TOGETHER TO SAVE OUR LAND
PLEASE EMAIL YOUR GIPPSLAND MEMBER, PETER RYAN RIGHT NOW peter.ryan@parliament.vic.gov.au
ASK HIM TO RAISE THE ISSUE OF YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS IN PARLIAMENT. WHICH IS NOW SITTING, OR PERSONALLY WITH THE MINISTER. ASK PETER TO URGE MINISTER MADDEN NOT TO SIGN OFF ON WELLINGTON SHIRE'S C48 PLANNING AMENDMENT ON THE 90 MILE BEACH.
Thankyou
Carol
WE ALL NEED TO ACT TOGETHER TO SAVE OUR LAND
PLEASE EMAIL YOUR GIPPSLAND MEMBER, PETER RYAN RIGHT NOW peter.ryan@parliament.vic.gov.au
ASK HIM TO RAISE THE ISSUE OF YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS IN PARLIAMENT. WHICH IS NOW SITTING, OR PERSONALLY WITH THE MINISTER. ASK PETER TO URGE MINISTER MADDEN NOT TO SIGN OFF ON WELLINGTON SHIRE'S C48 PLANNING AMENDMENT ON THE 90 MILE BEACH.
Thankyou
Carol
Saturday, August 18, 2007
New Planning Ammendment
If you haven't already done so please email your objection to planning ammendment C48 to justin.madden@parliament.vic.gov.au it is really important to lodge your objection
Friday, August 17, 2007
Great Letter Sent to Minister From Charlie Grech
Hon Justin Madden Mlc
Minister for planning
Level 17, 18 Nicholson St,
Melbourne Vic 3000
Dear Mr Madden,
I am in receipt of your response to my letter of 8/6/07 regarding issues concerning my property at Golden Beach. Your response is disheartening, and I put to you the following matters for your further consideration
Wellington shire council have adopted their nodal approach for the 90 mile beach on a one strategy suits all approach without any consideration to blocks past the nodal point which are not subject to any inundation, flooding or sinking problems.
They have adopted their Golden beach Nodal boundary to coincide with the end of the power lines purely for their convenience. They say this is because there is no infrastructure past this point.
And of course there is no infrastructure because of Wellington Council’s indecision, and their discouragement to landowners wanting to build and invest in the area. Wellington Shire say they want tourism, yet they are mismanaging this prime tourism asset.
With the State Government’s encouragement and Sustainable policies, a dwelling can easily be self sustainable with Solar Power, Rain water tanks, and On site Sewerage treatment. Therefore infrastructure is not an impediment to residential development.
My restructured block on Shoreline drive has never flooded or shown any signs of sinking as the doomsday people would have us believe, over the 40 years I have owned it. Indeed even during the recent heavy rains there was no water anywhere near the restructured blocks.
Yet Many areas of Gippsland were Flooded.
Whilst there were issues emanating from the original subdivision, these have been eliminated with the restructuring of blocks, and the elimination of land subject to inundation and flooding from the low density residential Zoning.
The request for interim controls by Wellington shire are therefore unnecessary, and raise high suspicion about the motivations of those promoting this wholesale denial of our rights to build on our land.
Wellington shire council which is supposed to represent all their ratepayers fairly and equitably have treated 90 mile beach land owners as outcasts as it seeks to have you, the minister, apply controls over our properties, without any concern for us the landowners.
An honourable council representing all ratepayers is bound to make sure that landowners are not disadvantaged, and if so that they are compensated at to-days prices.
Wellington Shire are quite happy to demand and collect rates from us, without providing us any tangible services, and then go about using these rates to work against our interests.
Their blanket nodal approach is flawed and discriminatory, and needs to be revisited by a committee represented by your office, council, and Landowners.
It is a sad fact of government these days that decisions are driven by bureaucrats who have no concern for people, and are driven purely by ideology. I am aware that there are inter departmental, and council committees making recommendations to you on the ninety mile beach issues, and these do not have any landowner representatives on them to give you a balanced recommendations.
I urge you to apply your governments policy of fairness to all Victorians by not acceding to Wellington Shire’s request, and to ensure that landowners are represented and consulted at all times.
In summary
1 The problems of flooding, inundation, sustainability and sinking are NOT widespread to the Whole of the Ninety Mile beach area.
2 The nodal approach assumes that it is. It is hard fisted and discriminatory as there are hundreds of blocks outside this nodal area which are sustainable and not beset by any problems.
3 Sustainable, Independent and envoiremently friendly infrastructure can be provided on all blocks of land.
4 Camping is permitted and encouraged by Parks Vic. Along the foreshore of Ninety mile Beach, indicating that even government departments don’t believe the sustainability rhetoric that is being advanced by Wellington Shire and others.
5 Landowners must be represented on all committees making recommendations on the Ninety Mile Beach area (Our Land). Council and Government must desist from their divide and conquer attitude.
6 If the State Government and Council are to persist with their current policy on the Ninety Mile Beach area, COMPENSATION levels should be set Now, and NOT when our land is made valueless by State Government and Wellington council policies
Hoping the above gets serious and fair consideration
Yours
…………………………. Charlie Grech
Minister for planning
Level 17, 18 Nicholson St,
Melbourne Vic 3000
Dear Mr Madden,
I am in receipt of your response to my letter of 8/6/07 regarding issues concerning my property at Golden Beach. Your response is disheartening, and I put to you the following matters for your further consideration
Wellington shire council have adopted their nodal approach for the 90 mile beach on a one strategy suits all approach without any consideration to blocks past the nodal point which are not subject to any inundation, flooding or sinking problems.
They have adopted their Golden beach Nodal boundary to coincide with the end of the power lines purely for their convenience. They say this is because there is no infrastructure past this point.
And of course there is no infrastructure because of Wellington Council’s indecision, and their discouragement to landowners wanting to build and invest in the area. Wellington Shire say they want tourism, yet they are mismanaging this prime tourism asset.
With the State Government’s encouragement and Sustainable policies, a dwelling can easily be self sustainable with Solar Power, Rain water tanks, and On site Sewerage treatment. Therefore infrastructure is not an impediment to residential development.
My restructured block on Shoreline drive has never flooded or shown any signs of sinking as the doomsday people would have us believe, over the 40 years I have owned it. Indeed even during the recent heavy rains there was no water anywhere near the restructured blocks.
Yet Many areas of Gippsland were Flooded.
Whilst there were issues emanating from the original subdivision, these have been eliminated with the restructuring of blocks, and the elimination of land subject to inundation and flooding from the low density residential Zoning.
The request for interim controls by Wellington shire are therefore unnecessary, and raise high suspicion about the motivations of those promoting this wholesale denial of our rights to build on our land.
Wellington shire council which is supposed to represent all their ratepayers fairly and equitably have treated 90 mile beach land owners as outcasts as it seeks to have you, the minister, apply controls over our properties, without any concern for us the landowners.
An honourable council representing all ratepayers is bound to make sure that landowners are not disadvantaged, and if so that they are compensated at to-days prices.
Wellington Shire are quite happy to demand and collect rates from us, without providing us any tangible services, and then go about using these rates to work against our interests.
Their blanket nodal approach is flawed and discriminatory, and needs to be revisited by a committee represented by your office, council, and Landowners.
It is a sad fact of government these days that decisions are driven by bureaucrats who have no concern for people, and are driven purely by ideology. I am aware that there are inter departmental, and council committees making recommendations to you on the ninety mile beach issues, and these do not have any landowner representatives on them to give you a balanced recommendations.
I urge you to apply your governments policy of fairness to all Victorians by not acceding to Wellington Shire’s request, and to ensure that landowners are represented and consulted at all times.
In summary
1 The problems of flooding, inundation, sustainability and sinking are NOT widespread to the Whole of the Ninety Mile beach area.
2 The nodal approach assumes that it is. It is hard fisted and discriminatory as there are hundreds of blocks outside this nodal area which are sustainable and not beset by any problems.
3 Sustainable, Independent and envoiremently friendly infrastructure can be provided on all blocks of land.
4 Camping is permitted and encouraged by Parks Vic. Along the foreshore of Ninety mile Beach, indicating that even government departments don’t believe the sustainability rhetoric that is being advanced by Wellington Shire and others.
5 Landowners must be represented on all committees making recommendations on the Ninety Mile Beach area (Our Land). Council and Government must desist from their divide and conquer attitude.
6 If the State Government and Council are to persist with their current policy on the Ninety Mile Beach area, COMPENSATION levels should be set Now, and NOT when our land is made valueless by State Government and Wellington council policies
Hoping the above gets serious and fair consideration
Yours
…………………………. Charlie Grech
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