Fighting for Property Rights on Golden Beach "INAPPROPRIATE SUBDIVISION" under the Victorian Coastal Strategy
Tuesday, January 22, 2008
Decision Time
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From Carol
I've had an argument with the rates department today. Narelle Stevens says my land is valued at $7.500. She said it's been devalued because of the amendment (ie decreased from $22,500). I said 'youre doing to me what you did to others in the past - devaluing the land so you can get it for nicks. She had the cheek to say that I was warned about the strategy. I said I dont listen to hearsay, I follow the laws of the day, and the law at that time said it was low density residential.
So I feel pretty sure that I would therefore be offered only what it's valued at, should the govt offer compensation. By the time they do that, I will only get rates relinquishment, because I already owe $1,300+. I'd rather fight to hang on to it. However, in response to your email Kim, I'd be willing to negotiate, and just see what theyre offering. But for my 3 blocks I wouldnt be interested in anything less than 3/4 of the market value of 4 blocks. But like I said, I think theyre unlikely to offer it. (Having said that, I'd probably go for the compromise situation if I felt sure the others would get their permits)
I'd just like to say a few more words about the valuation process. It's meant to be objective, but I think it's rather questionable. 2 years ago my 3 blocks on the boundary of Glomar were valued by the previous valuer at $22,500, on the basis of land sales. In the meanitime property values have increased, so I objected. But I seem to have been punished by having them lowered to $7,500, despite that I paid $12,500 in 2003.After my conversation with the valuer it became clear that the process is not at all objective, in fact I'd describe it as downright random. He admitted that he had no idea of the recent sales, and simply valued them at what he thought I paid, in accordance with the erroneous files supplied to him by the shire. When I told him how much I paid he requested copies of my purchase documents. When I spoke with him last week, he seemed to be agreeing to reinstatte the original value, but said he'd have to talk to 'the girls' first (ie Narelle et al). Seems 'the girls' think my rates should stay undervalued. Narelle Stevens said I could take it to vcat if I want. SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE'RE ALL IN STORE FOR. NARELLE SAID TODAY THAT MY BLOCK IS AUTOMATICALLY DEVALUED BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN SIGNED BY THE MINISTER. I THINK THIS IS AN OUTRAGEOUS VIOLATION OF OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS AND WE SHOULD FIGHT BACK, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PUBLICITY. EVERYONE SHOULD TRY HARD TO CONTACT THE MEDIA WITH THEIR INDIVIDUAL STORIES.
I FEEL THAT THE LAND OWNERS HAVE BEEN HOODWINKED!! I THINK THE COUNCIL IS OUT TO LINE IT'S OWN POCKETS AND THE POCKETS OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE PROBABLY WAITING PATIENLY FOR THE RELEASE OF THIS RECLAIMED LAND. I HAVE A BLOCK THAT WAS RESTRUCTURED AND INFORMED THAT IT WOULD BE LEFT ALONE ONLY TO BE TOLD LAST WEEK THAT IT IS PART OF THE SO CALLED SUBDIVISION...
They Have, and you are 100% right with what the council have planned. I am sorry to hear they have let you go the past 2 years thinking you were ok, I know they mucked around with the boundaries and nobody was getting any answers about where they were.
If you send me your email address, I will add you to the list, the more we stick together the better for all, I hope.
4 comments:
From Carol
I've had an argument with the rates department today. Narelle Stevens says my land is valued at $7.500. She said it's been devalued because of the amendment (ie decreased from $22,500). I said 'youre doing to me what you did to others in the past - devaluing the land so you can get it for nicks. She had the cheek to say that I was warned about the strategy. I said I dont listen to hearsay, I follow the laws of the day, and the law at that time said it was low density residential.
So I feel pretty sure that I would therefore be offered only what it's valued at, should the govt offer compensation. By the time they do that, I will only get rates relinquishment, because I already owe $1,300+. I'd rather fight to hang on to it. However, in response to your email Kim, I'd be willing to negotiate, and just see what theyre offering. But for my 3 blocks I wouldnt be interested in anything less than 3/4 of the market value of 4 blocks. But like I said, I think theyre unlikely to offer it. (Having said that, I'd probably go for the compromise situation if I felt sure the others would get their permits)
I'd just like to say a few more words about the valuation process. It's meant to be objective, but I think it's rather questionable. 2 years ago my 3 blocks on the boundary of Glomar were valued by the previous valuer at $22,500, on the basis of land sales. In the meanitime property values have increased, so I objected. But I seem to have been punished by having them lowered to $7,500, despite that I paid $12,500 in 2003.After my conversation with the valuer it became clear that the process is not at all objective, in fact I'd describe it as downright random. He admitted that he had no idea of the recent sales, and simply valued them at what he thought I paid, in accordance with the erroneous files supplied to him by the shire. When I told him how much I paid he requested copies of my purchase documents. When I spoke with him last week, he seemed to be agreeing to reinstatte the original value, but said he'd have to talk to 'the girls' first (ie Narelle et al). Seems 'the girls' think my rates should stay undervalued. Narelle Stevens said I could take it to vcat if I want.
SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE'RE ALL IN STORE FOR. NARELLE SAID TODAY THAT MY BLOCK IS AUTOMATICALLY DEVALUED BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN SIGNED BY THE MINISTER. I THINK THIS IS AN OUTRAGEOUS VIOLATION OF OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS AND WE SHOULD FIGHT BACK, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PUBLICITY. EVERYONE SHOULD TRY HARD TO CONTACT THE MEDIA WITH THEIR INDIVIDUAL STORIES.
I FEEL THAT THE LAND OWNERS HAVE BEEN HOODWINKED!! I THINK THE COUNCIL IS OUT TO LINE IT'S OWN POCKETS AND THE POCKETS OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE PROBABLY WAITING PATIENLY FOR THE RELEASE OF THIS RECLAIMED LAND. I HAVE A BLOCK THAT WAS RESTRUCTURED AND INFORMED THAT IT WOULD BE LEFT ALONE ONLY TO BE TOLD LAST WEEK THAT IT IS PART OF THE SO CALLED SUBDIVISION...
They Have, and you are 100% right with what the council have planned. I am sorry to hear they have let you go the past 2 years thinking you were ok, I know they mucked around with the boundaries and nobody was getting any answers about where they were.
If you send me your email address, I will add you to the list, the more we stick together the better for all, I hope.
Kim
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Council-Watchdog-Wellington-Shire-Victoria/249937545030127
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